acn people just playing "MIND GAME WITH YOU" just be very careful they make only those sing with statements which strike your mind and you stay connected with acn. they are playing with people's feeling and money
IT IS A SMART PYRAMID SCHEME

DO NOT join ACN before you LOOKING ON YOUR THE TC AND RD'S INCOME STATEMENT FOR AT LEAST SINCE HE STARTED ACN  COMPARE HOE MUCH YOU ARE MAKING *******YOU WILL FIND THE TRUTH RIGHT THERE******* THEY ARE BIG FAT LIARS OUT THERE, FOR THEIR OWN MONTHLY BONUSES THEY WILL SHOW YOU BIG DREAMS, BECAUSE THEY SHOW OFF TOO MUCH WITH THERE BMW AND MERCEDES CARS. WHEN YOU ASK THEM SHOE ME HOW MUCH MONEY YOU MAKE THEN EVERYONE HAS THE SAME ANSWER***** COMPANY DON'T ALLOW US TO SHOW OUR STATEMENT.. ACUTALLY THEIR ARE NOT MAKING ANY THING JUST BE VERY CAREFULL.
*********** DO NOT JOIN PLEASE***************

Most of the people that are critical about ACN are people that are used to being completely lazy in their lives and their day jobs, have no initiative and therefore are unsuccessful in general.
Consider the source when you are seeking unsolicited opinions from the internet!
Would you ask your lawyer for advice on which dentist is best?

I've seen the word scam used a lot, the only scam is the one you pull on yourself. If you think you can become an IBO and sit back and do nothing, e-mail me your 499, because thats not how it works.
To make anything work well you need to put in an effort, put down the remote and get of the sofa. If you work part time at ACN while still holding down a job to pay the bills, it will take some time to get things moving. Once it starts however, it becomes its own force, a "rolling stone" as it were, your pay just keeps on growing.
There are far to many people in the world sitting on thier hands saying wheres mine, so and so got his now i want mine.
GET UP and get it.
You are paying for your lights phone cable etc. why not try to make some money on it at the sme time.
Its not hard, do the work get paid

"holy f*ck i wrote off $8974 last year for a 500 investment and a 9000 return thats great"

Just because it's "legal" does it make it ethical or ok to "take your piece of the pie"? The only difference between the "State" and the "Mafia" is one is legally permitted to use force.

No wonder the US has massive debt problems and the middle class is either being squeezed dry or dumbed down by Hollywood and the media. Businesses like ACN gravitate to the intellectual debtors of society who feed off the work of others. This is the future society unfolding and is catering to those who want the "easy ride".

What ever happened to "reaping what you sow"?

to those of you who have never been to a seminar go what do u have to lose an hour of your time big woop and a pyramid everything is a pyrimid 95% of you people out there are on the bitch end of it you go to work bust your ass and make barely enough to get buy while your boss sits on his ass and gets paid twice as much as you if not more and as far as the 500 goes your a small buisness you can WRITE IT OFF ON YOUR TAXES RETARD it can be nothing more then a tax break as business you write everything off like gas internet food car % of rent/mogatge insurance and your going to say its a scam  put it this way sign up pay $500 buy your survices off yourself make what ever and your write offs are endless for 8 years then the goverment says you suck close your business  holy fuck i wrote off $8974 last year for a 500 investment and a 9000 return thats great

I would like to thank David Downing - ACN Independant Business Owner for sharing his remarks and for demonstrating his intense lack of professionalism and respect for fellow human beings.  Remind me once again to not venture into anything with this company because my professionalism is something that doesn't need to be tarnished by comments of those who are 'Independant Business Owners'.

As a side note, you wouldn't see the successful owner of a major company making condescending and derogatory comments against his potential colleagues, would you? That is the difference between those with class, and those who do not possess it.

Thank you once again, for the recent invitation that I received by someone who appears professional will now be met with a flat out 'no', thanks to David Downings' unprofessional and derogatory comments. As a matter of fact, I will be sharing Mr. Downing's comment as my response.

I've attended a few ACN meetings.  The few presentations I have been to the IBO(s) have all said the same thing.  It's not for everyone and not everyone makes money.  My buddy has been doing it about 6months, he has roughly 90 people in his network totalling just shy of 500 customers.  His income is plus or minus $5000.00.  I know a few other people involved, they're success isn't as great.  Why is that?  From what I've seen he has worked his rear off and the others haven't.  
The numbers that have been quoted to me so far seem to hold true.  Half your invites show up to the meeting, 20-30% join and 5-10% of them make it work.  Simple math - 100 say yes to come - 50 show up - 10-15 join - 2 succeed.  Hmmm sounds like the real world.  Everybody wants to complain and knock the 5 percenters in the world.  YOU Reep what YOU Sowe.  Wishing much success to those that want to be those 5 percenters      
                                               Brian B

Some of you guys are a joke. I am a IBO in this incredible company! Some of you think this is a SCAM? Give your heads a shake! DONALD TRUMP, BELL, TELUS, VERISON, PLANET ENERGY, ADT of course are ALL involved in the ''scam''? I dont think so, Donald Trump himself has endorsed the company because when he WANTED TO BUY ACN they wouldn't sell it to him because we are so cash flush. ACN is the ONLY company he endorses and does not own. Where else can you own your own business for $500 and have the customer service done for you, your own online store, all the training you need and the support from your team? Go out and purchase a telus booth in a mall people... your looking at $500,000 minimum, I just spent $500 and have my own Telus franchise. Guys, do your homework, yes this business takes hard work and isn't a get rich quick, just like any other business.... you need to spend 3-5 year to build your business and clientelle in order to be sucessful. Thanks for reading

DON'T WASTE YOUR HARD WORKING $ 500.00 ON ACN,THERE IS NO TRUTH WHAT SO EVER IN ACN,THEY ARE SHOWING YOU IN THE VIDEO OR IN THE BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY MEETINGS,IF SOME ONE APPROACHING YOU THAT YOU CAN MAKE A LOTS OF MONEY, JUST ASK HIM SHOW ME YOUR LAST TWO YEARS OF CHEQUES HOW MUCH YOU ARE MAKING EVERY SINGLE MONTH, THEN THEY WILL GIVE YOU ANSWER COMPANY WON'T ALLOW US TO SHOW YOU THE CHEQUES***** IT ALL BULL SHIT**** .THE TRUTH IS MOST OF THERE TC/RD ARE STRUGGLING AND NOT MAKING ENOUGH FOR DAILY NEED, AND YOU WILL FIND CHEAPER SERVICES OUTSIDE,DON'T GET ANY SERVICE FROM ACN ITS JUST A RIP OFF

ACN is a MLM, just like the Acai Berry Wine thing.  Except, you can drink the wine.  ACN doesn't matter anymore because almost everyone has a computer and can use Skype.  So why would anyone pay for something extra when they can get internet and video for the same or lower price a month?

I was invited to the so called "presentation". The guy who invited me couldn't even tell me his business. He said it was telecommunications and energy. I knew something was up. I went anyway and it was the typical bs. Then at the end the "guests" were swarmed by IBO's and they tried to hard close you. I was kind of laughing as the IBO was trying to hard close me. They would barely let me leave. It was crazy. Everything was such a secret until you get in the doors. Don't fall for it people.

What a run-around!!!  Finally got these people to "say" I have a refund coming after I mailed them a "required" registered letter requesting a refund and also a "faxed letter" as well.  Now they send me an email saying they will send a partial refund and only when I return the Starter Kit.  What Starter Kit???  I never received a starter kit.  Only then will they refund the remaining amount.  GRRR!  I made the mistake of signing up, paying $499 on the same night.  After sleeping on it overnight, I called ACN the following morning and told them I had mailed a "registered letter" requesting a refund.  They didn't even have time to send me a Starter Kit!  That was 8 days ago and they are still glued to MY MONEY!  They refused to act on my request without a confirmation of the Registered Letter.  I had to call them...they put me on hold and when she returned, she said, "Oh yes, we received the letter."  DO NOT GET INVOLVED WITH THIS SO CALLED COMPANY!  There is a reason why these people are loaded.  They keep every penny they get their hands on whether they are entitled to it or whether you're satisfied or not!  If you want to start a business, Start your Own Business and don't get involved in someone elses slave labor scam.

wow, so many great comments... thanks everyone. i think i`ll pass acn.

ACN IS A SCAM MY NIECE DID IT AND MADE ME JOIN JUST BECAUSE I HAD MONEY. IF YOU WANT TO MAKE MONEY, DO NOT JOIN, YOU'LL INVEST AND WILL NEVER SEE ANYTHING. NOW IF YOU ARE SOMEONE GETTING PAYED FROM THE COMPANY DIRECTLY LIKE SIMON ABBOUD AND NATHAN GOLDBERG THAN OBVIOUSLY YOU WILL MAKE MONEY, OTHERWISE FORGET IT.

To david downing i would like too point out that your personal website as you call it, is just a clone like every other acn slaves website.
If you can even call them a website, as a kid at the age of 12 i ussed too build a 3 step homepage with more design and it was free.
An acn website holds around 10 pages, so 500$ worth of IT is a joke (sorry more ACN make belief and a lie that you see as truth)

I was offered a job with ACN and a very good friend adviced me it was a SCAM and that I had to pay $500 upfront. HECK NO!

BTW Sean..You should read your comment word for word and spellcheck..Have a good day!

Everything about ACN smacks of dishonesty and deceit: Hiding who they are and what they do right up to the last second. Using psychologically manipulative techniques against family and friends. Selling the right to "sell the right." De minimis residual income. Obsolete products, deceptive customer service, and terrible customer support. Dozens of "gotchas" in their contracts and service agreements. A 99% failure rate. An ordeal to extract yourself from it.

Feel sorry for the people who have been ensnared by ACN. They're probably looking at between 6 months and 2 years of hell.

I am an ACN independant business owner (IBO). I sat on the sidelines for a few years closely watching a close friend of mine work hard at ACN, until recently I realized how successful he was doing with it, so i joined a few months ago. This is by far, NOT a scam! This is a business opportunity that does require dedication and hard work in order to achieve success. This is no different than any other business. Your level of success is reflected by your level of dedication. In reading all the above comments, I would like to point out a two major considerations that were overlooked and not mentioned. First, people are quick to point out that the residual income percentages paid to you are very low, however, keep in mind that these percentages will continue to grow as your customer base grows AND they will be paid to you as long as your customers keep there services (and this can be a long time in the case of gas & hydro)So, for a one-time sale you can potentially get paid...forever! Secondly, when you pay your entry fee of $499, what the above people neglected to tell you is that you immediatly are set up with your own personal ACN On-Line Store. This is a personal website that only you can access and allow any of your customers or potential customers to visit. From this on-line store, they can browse, research and even buy any of the various products that ACN has to offer. How easy is that! I can't tell you how many people I have run into on the fly and given them my business card for them to go and visit my Webstore.  ACN even has a Back Door Office to your website which they monitor for you. This tracks all your customers, the services they have purchased through you, the account statis..everything! This is like having your own secretary watch over your accounts,... and you can check it at a glance from any PC, anywhere at anytime! Now you tell me (anyone who has an insite to business operations) what do you think it would cost to have an IT come into your place of business, design and set-up a website, AND monitor it for you on a daily basis? Guaranteed there isn't an IT out there who is willing to do all that for $499. So in conclusion, the whiners out there that are slamming ACN as a scam, are people who are unmotivated with no desire to succeed in life (regardless of what business they get involved in). And I am especially ashamed of those who where a part of ACN and decided to whine without giving all the facts before posting their negative comments. These people must have been sleeping or playing with their I-Phones while attending the very informative ACN seminars that explain in great detail all angles of this business. I suggest to anyone that before making these negative comments about ACN, to take 1 hour of your time, and go to a BOM seminar, and listen closely before drawing any conclusions and posting them to the internet. If you can't do that, than you are lazy and have nothing better to do with your life than to sit in front of your computer and post unnecessary negative info on topics you know nothing about. Oh yeah, now that I'm done venting, I want to let you know that in a very short time, I have almost made back my entry fee in bonus's and have built a solid customer base with residual income. This business is not for everyone, however, for those who are dedicated and determined IT WORKS!!!

David Downing
ACN Independant Business Owner

I am not involved with ACN at this time but must tell you I get it in a big way.  I have spent 15 years running a profitable business with long hours and sacrifices.  i have made a good living at it.  here's the deal... if you work at anything hard enough with a solid business plan you will succeed.  Now there are people tha have no business being in business and in ACn or any other company there are those that will fail and those that will succeed.  Really be honest with yorself when you slam ACN or any other opportunity you got involved with.  Did you actually work at it as a business or dabble in it for a couple weks or months.  Did you do the math? did you stick it out?  DID YOU FOLLOW THE BUSINESS PLAN!!  iF YOU CAN'T ANSWER "YES" THEN STFU CRAWL BACK IN YOUR f'ING HOLE AND CARRY ON WITH YOUR LOOSER LIFE.

I am not involved with ACN at this time but must tell you I get it in a big way.  I have spent 15 years running a profitable business with long hours and sacrifices.  i have made a good living at it.  here's the deal... if you work at anything hard enough with a solid business plan you will succeed.  Now there are people tha have no business being in business and in ACn or any other company there are those that will fail and those that will succeed.  Really be honest with yorself when you slam ACN or any other opportunity you got involved with.  Did you actually work at it as a business or dabble in it for a couple weks or months.  Did you do the math? did you stick it out?  DID YOU FOLLOW THE BUSINESS PLAN!!  iF YOU CAN'T ANSWER "YES" THEN STFU CRAWL BACK IN YOUR f'ING HOLE AND CARRY ON WITH YOUR LOOSER LIFE.

You are absolutely right who said "Nobody uses these phones because t hey don't work right and customer service sucks"  all for $500.  I found out I could not promote something to friends and colleagues and so on that I dont like myself.

Hi Greg, thank you for your analysis. As IT guy you did it in a short,   insightful and informative manner :) I hope this will open eyes for some people, that ACN is not an apportunity, but a scam.

I'm an IT and network engineer from Los Angeles and several friends of mine joined the ACN cult in fall 2007. What I discovered from them after 4 years is that ACN commission is a joke. You only receive 1% for every $1000 and ACN only pays a minimum of $13. That means you need $1,300 in customer bills each month just to get a $10 check. The other $300 turns into a $3 fee for mailing a check. There is also a $150 annual fee. There are many things that they do not want you to know. All they brag about is you will receive up to 10% of your customers bills"  - it’s true but you need $10,000 in bills to receive a $100 check! Do the math before you join ACN. You're forking over $500 to someone you never met. The only people that make money in ACN are not talking about it.

I Have Looked Into ACN Over the Past Few Years.  Originally Heard Of It Back In Torono, Canada. I Have Some Advice If Anyone Is Looking Into ACN . Thx!



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Okay everyone. ACN wants to increase their bottom line by increasing sales for their products. They can't do this in this tough economy so they are using the oldest scheme fo advertising throught pyramid network instead of hiring legit sales people and or paying for expensive advertising through TV commercials, Newspapers, magazines etc. majority of all you suckers who buy into their sales pitch and cough up five bills learn the hard way that you can not get rich over nite and you will never be as rich as ACN cuz they set up the scheme so they can get rich. You are the pawn to make their scheme work. They are targeting the uneducated and desperate hardworking blue collar individuals who wish to get a head in life with a big fat carrot of how to get rich. In reality, you can not with ACN. Think about it. They set the rules to vidicate them from their distribution network. All the reps are out for themselves. ACN wants the end user as the customer. They dont care about the reps taking the heat for their miserable 1% commissions which could lead to 10% and so on. ACN is using the cheapest sales force and paying sweet FA for it. Dont be a sucker for these schemes!

Some of your opinions (according to Dictionary.com: OPINIONS: a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty...meaning you DO NOT KNOW anything, you are making it up and assuming) your opinions are just as unfounded and uneducated as what some of you claim the author of this article is due to his grammar and spelling. I am not saying that you are uneducated or dumb, I am just noticing that you are not educated on what ACN is or how it works, nor do you realize many other important things about the company.

The same percentage of people that make it in ACN are the same percentages that make it in life, in general-- so that should tell you something about the people. Success is a habit, & complaint = poverty.

Here is a lesson for all of you that complain about "paying to work" somewhere...

~ You can talk to every single Realtor you ever come in contact with, any person that works at a salon and has their own "chair" or desk where they do nails and MANY other businesses and you will find that they pay a hell of a lot more money than does an ACN rep.

I live in Los Angeles and have many girlfriends that work in salons and they pay about $375 per WEEK (52 times a YEAR that= $19,500 per YEAR) to work there and an ACN Rep can make considerably more money than they can! What you are failing to realize is that, like owning your own business as a hair professional, you are buying into a franchise with a proven name and a proven system who has done all of the hard work FOR you. You are not an employee, thus you make employer wages, not employee wages. Look into a McDonald's franchise and see if you can buy into their system for $1.2 Million, which it will take you on average about 3 years to turn a profit and ACN it takes you less than a month.

The only way to research is to get involved and find out for yourself-- how many of you have tossed away $500 on a bar tab, a phone that got stolen or dropped in the toilet, or the many other things we have all wasted money on with nothing to show for it?

I love what ACN is doing and it gives us ALL a chance to take some money back from companies like Verizon, Sprint, DirecTV and many others that have taken from us for so long, and we can also help others to save money. ACN just opened up Gas & Electric on the East Coast and it is coming to the West Coast soon-- how many of you would like to get apiece of the summer electric bills from A/C running all day and night?

The company works, the system works-- it's the PEOPLE that do not work and make it fail.

If you persist and believe, you will achieve, and that goes for your lives in general.

mp959@live.com

The ACN has a proven system and solid products, the products you sell are Verizon, Sprint, ADT, Earth Energy, Clear wireless and dishnetwork and more. are they scams???

ACN is like ANY MLM, You have to work the system, if you don't your going to loose your money. if your not a risk taker or a social networker don't do a MLM, All MLM's have a large turn over, because people get hyped and sign up and then they dont follow through, they quit and then call it a scam

So many questions and not enough answers. In a world fighting for customers and companies watching over their reputations like a hawk, what do these companies all have in common? I am referring to major Fortune 100 icons like General Electric, DuPont, Time, Verizon Wireless and AT&T as well as some smaller ones like Travelocity, Peter Lamas and BSP Rewards Mall.

The answer is simple, somehow over the past 10 years and probably unbeknownst to them, they became aligned with a Multi-Level Marketing company known as Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing (FHTM). This was mainly accomplished because Fortune Hi-Tech does business with some of their authorized dealers and 3rd party affiliates. Fortune’s attempt to prove it’s legal by association has backfired, as it normally does. It is very difficult to build your reputation at the expense of someone bigger, when they have no idea who you are.

Should these companies have a say in who gets to use their brand in the pursuit of the almighty dollar? For the first time in FHTM’s history the number of companies represented by it on the menu board at fhtm.net is shrinking. How can that be good?

According to court documents and a major USA Today expose, last September, none of these companies had direct relationships with FHTM.
In March 2010, Monica Lindeen, the Securities Commissioner for the State of Montana, issued a cease and desist against Fortune HI-Tech Marketing for operating an illegal endless recruiting pyramid scheme. Since then Texas has demanded documents in an investigation, South Carolina AG Roy Cooper, has opened an investigation into Fortune’s business practices, as part of the FTC’s “Operation Empty Promises”, and its own home state of Kentucky has done the same.

Two blistering heart pounding class-action lawsuits have pummeled FHTM in 2010 as well. The first was filed in Federal Court in Kentucky in September 2010 and the other in Federal Court in Southern California two days before Christmas last year too. Neither of these lawsuits have been certified as a class yet, and mainly due to some extensive manipulation of the legal system by the Fortune legal team.

What is the cost of that battle? Some estimate legal costs upwards of $500K monthly. That certainly will take a huge chunk out of any business’ cash flow. Fortune is not the first MLM or pyramid scheme to be involved in major lawsuits. Amway just agreed to pay a record settlement of close to $150 Million. Most top law firms and executives know they can’t win these types of suits, and mainstream media leaves a negative impact on their business. Attorneys have very little defense to RICO and pyramid scheme allegations, and after spending millions trying to defend the allegations, usually make arrangements for settlement conferences. They may win some of the small battles but not the war. What is the depth of the scars these lawsuits leave to deter others to join?

So the important question now remains, why did these huge conglomerates allow their names and reputations to potentially be smeared by a company like FHTM? The answer is simple - they didn’t know what was happening.

According to ex-representative, Joseph Isaacs from Tampa, Florida, “When these companies find out that their trademarks, names, logos and reputations are being used by FHTM in order to aide FHTM in proving its’ legitimacy they will issue a cease or desist, insist on the actions to stop or not allow FHTM to market their products”. Which others will walk when they find out the real business model and litigation history of Fortune Hi-Tech?

As of March 2011 every one of the companies listed above has either issued a cease and desist or no longer allows itself to be aligned with Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing. How has this affected their aura of legitimacy? How do they explain all of this to new and even existing independent representatives?

In reviewing some FHTM business presentations on YouTube, it was apparent that the logos of GE, DuPont, Verizon and AT&T were there for one reason. What are the repercussions of only being legal by association? According to Joseph Isaacs, “Top leaders would tell prospects during the business presentation that they must be legal because no iconic Fortune 100 company would affiliate with a scam”. “All of these major companies sent their CEO’s and legal teams to meet with founder Paul Orberson to evaluate FHTM and check out their books. This cannot be so and was nothing more than a lie used to recruit”, he added. What rhetoric do these leaders use today to explain the loss of such major brands? Only time will tell.

Will FHTM leaders and owners blame the latest Verizon fiasco on the reps like they did in their announcement pertaining to DuPont only a few weeks ago? How long will this saga continue? Which other company will research the true business model of Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing and un-align themselves next? It is too early to tell but this story is far from over.

If the massacre continues then Fortune will be nothing more than a vitamin and dog food MLM. That is not very hi-tech and not too many fortunes will be made by affiliation. How much representative revenue has been lost as a result of these major companies walking away? How many current representatives are scrambling to replace so many customer points? How many Regional and Executive managers won’t get bonuses because their team points are greatly depleted because of the latest loss? We searched high and low for the answers but didn’t find any.

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